The Real Dream Podcast returns from our hiatus. In todays episode, we react to the recent revelations about Dennis Rodman and his daughter Trinity's strained relationship. We explore the impact of absentee parenting and the lessons fathers can take from their story. Then, we shift the focus to the powerful role fathers play in their daughters' lives. From building confidence to shaping their values, we discuss what it truly means to be present and engaged as a father. Tune in for a raw and insightful conversation on fatherhood, accountability, and growth.
00:00:11.913 --> 00:00:13.775 and welcome to the real dream podcast.
00:00:13.775 --> 00:00:15.276 I'm your host daily news.
00:00:15.276 --> 00:00:16.599 I'm here with my boy, duke man.
00:00:16.599 --> 00:00:17.323 How you doing today?
00:00:17.323 --> 00:00:18.126 I'm good man.
00:00:18.126 --> 00:00:18.629 How are you?
00:00:18.629 --> 00:00:19.733 I'm good, I'm good.
00:00:19.733 --> 00:00:21.260 Uh, to everybody listening to this.
00:00:21.260 --> 00:00:25.131 This is gonna come out christmas week, so we wish you a Merry Christmas, man.
00:00:25.131 --> 00:00:27.667 Hope you enjoy your holidays Happy holidays.
00:00:27.708 --> 00:00:31.530 Yes, good to know that everybody's celebrating Christmas, true, true.
00:00:32.180 --> 00:00:35.667 First episode back, and man, let's just get back into it.
00:00:36.369 --> 00:00:37.311 What it's been over a year.
00:00:37.872 --> 00:00:44.103 Yeah yeah, it's been over a year since we recorded an episode and had a couple interviews and everything like that.
00:00:44.103 --> 00:00:55.192 Took a break, got our lives changed and dealing with some stuff in our own personal lives, and now we're in a good spot to just get back to it.
00:00:55.192 --> 00:00:57.154 Man, gotta get our swagger back right quick.
00:00:57.154 --> 00:00:57.793 Yeah.
00:00:57.793 --> 00:00:59.115 Yeah, had to take a little bit of time.
00:00:59.115 --> 00:01:00.476 I don't know if I ever had swagger.
00:01:00.476 --> 00:01:02.378 I had something.
00:01:02.378 --> 00:01:06.640 I don't know if I call it swagger, but yeah, man, let's get back into it.
00:01:06.640 --> 00:01:08.206 Let's get on our first topic.
00:01:08.206 --> 00:01:13.132 Our first topic is this whole Dennis Rodman thing.
00:01:13.132 --> 00:01:15.986 Now, I know you didn't know about this.
00:01:15.986 --> 00:01:17.510 No, you didn't.
00:01:17.551 --> 00:01:20.638 Somewhat I knew a little bit, but not everything Okay.
00:01:21.141 --> 00:01:25.832 So we're going back into this whole story about Dennis Rodman and his daughter, trinity.
00:01:25.832 --> 00:01:42.492 She recently opened up on a podcast about a strained relationship between her and her father, was calling him out, calling him that he was a dad by blood only and it was revealed that he was absent and things like that.
00:01:42.492 --> 00:01:43.605 So we're going to play you the clip.
00:01:43.799 --> 00:01:47.618 Well, he's running around in a wedding dress, so I mean that might have something to do with it.
00:01:48.786 --> 00:01:50.275 He was tripping back in the 90s.
00:01:50.275 --> 00:01:50.920 He was out there.
00:01:50.920 --> 00:01:52.885 Honestly, I didn't even know he had kids.
00:01:52.885 --> 00:01:54.230 I didn't either.
00:01:54.230 --> 00:01:58.197 So but yeah, his daughter, Trinity Rodman, is actually.
00:01:58.197 --> 00:02:03.647 She's a the USA national soccer team.
00:02:03.647 --> 00:02:05.350 She's a professional, I think.
00:02:05.350 --> 00:02:08.515 She plays for Manhattan.
00:02:09.260 --> 00:02:09.401 The.
00:02:09.421 --> 00:02:10.385 Manhattan soccer team.
00:02:11.442 --> 00:02:12.324 Oh, you're the NWSL, yep.
00:02:15.540 --> 00:02:20.832 I'll go ahead and play the clip and we'll go ahead and react to what she had to say about old dad.
00:02:20.939 --> 00:02:23.722 I think what the most frustrating part about it is is.
00:02:23.722 --> 00:02:30.145 I think, with how successful he was and how rich he was, he was surrounded by a lot of toxic people.
00:02:30.145 --> 00:02:37.611 He's never understood that people could actually just want to be around him and to just want to, like, make him happy.
00:02:38.171 --> 00:02:40.334 Like we.
00:02:40.334 --> 00:02:46.138 Yes, we're coming to you for money because we're literally living in a fucking car, but we also want you.
00:02:46.138 --> 00:02:54.669 But he's so paranoid of whatever's going on in his life that he can't like accept what you guys are trying to give him.
00:02:54.669 --> 00:02:56.960 And so it's like this cat and mouse game where you guys feel like you're constantly being rejected.
00:02:57.419 --> 00:02:57.681 For me.
00:02:57.681 --> 00:02:58.322 Emotionally.
00:02:58.322 --> 00:03:06.632 He's put me through like, oh my gosh, like even just him not talking to me for months, months and months.
00:03:06.632 --> 00:03:12.444 And then he randomly calls and he's like hey, like I'm thinking of doing a TV show, reality TV show you want to join?
00:03:12.444 --> 00:03:17.443 I'm just like whoa, we had an expedition and we kind of lived in that for a little bit.
00:03:17.443 --> 00:03:18.566 We tried to live with him.
00:03:18.727 --> 00:03:20.050 But he's having parties 24 seven.
00:03:20.050 --> 00:03:21.704 He's bringing random in.
00:03:21.704 --> 00:03:27.798 He loves the spotlight, he loves the cameras, he loves bringing his children on stage and being like, oh, these are my kids.
00:03:27.798 --> 00:03:31.191 I'm crying, no one knows what's going on and I'm like, dude, my dad's here.
00:03:31.191 --> 00:03:33.379 And then I walk over and again there's cameras everywhere.
00:03:33.379 --> 00:03:45.722 He grabs my head and I just start bawling into his arms as if, like it's a daddy-daughter, like I lost hope in like ever Getting him back.
00:03:45.722 --> 00:03:50.180 I answer the phone now for, like my conscience, to be like he needed to hear my voice before anything happens, like that's why I answer the phone, not for me he's not a dad, maybe by blood, but nothing else.
00:03:51.521 --> 00:03:52.965 How long ago was this interview.
00:03:53.145 --> 00:04:14.365 This video interview was done a couple weeks ago, like a week or so ago I thought I remember seeing something that they were doing good like, because I I knew they had a strange relationship, yeah, but I thought I heard that they came together like before the olympics actually, yeah, and was really good and on good speaking terms and he was around and stuff.
00:04:14.365 --> 00:04:15.487 So something must change.
00:04:15.487 --> 00:04:19.742 But tennis, robin man, I mean yeah, anybody that remembers the 90s?
00:04:21.064 --> 00:04:33.670 god, I remember that man married himself, like I just, I just remember him in the wedding dress and I remember the jordan talking about the.
00:04:33.670 --> 00:04:42.369 Uh, the last day vacation, yes you need a break oh man.
00:04:42.430 --> 00:04:45.452 So all right, so let's, let's jump into this like.
00:04:45.452 --> 00:04:57.733 Oh man, so what does this reveal about, like the impact of absentee parenting, and how does like men like us deal?
00:04:57.733 --> 00:05:02.485 How do we handle the pressure of parenting and not have to like get out?
00:05:02.485 --> 00:05:19.725 You know what I mean, especially when the struggles like and struggles take us away from home, because dennis robin I don't think he was an actual like absentee father where he was just like I'm booking it, you know what I mean he just kind of nba girls, his priorities was just he got caught up.
00:05:19.867 --> 00:05:20.947 Sound like he got caught up.
00:05:20.947 --> 00:05:22.348 Yeah, um, it's not like he.
00:05:22.348 --> 00:05:24.951 I I do know.
00:05:24.951 --> 00:05:48.682 I remember seeing a, a movie about his life and I don't know, I don't think his first daughter, um, I believe it was a little girl, I hope I'm not misquoted, but he was there for her and then that woman, at least in the movie, if I remember correctly, kind of took his kid away from him.
00:05:48.682 --> 00:05:53.920 And that's when, because Dennis was like strict, cut and everything.
00:05:53.920 --> 00:06:01.209 When he first got into the league he was quiet, soft spoken, just got rebounds and then a lot of this.
00:06:01.209 --> 00:06:15.596 I don't want to say I don't know what the man's been diagnosed with or anything like that, but all this craziness and foolishness that we started to see a lot of it stemmed from when he couldn't see his door, his first daughter as much as possible.
00:06:15.958 --> 00:06:39.302 Now, obviously he followed a pattern with that and and repeated, and I don't know, I don't know how many children he has I know this young lady's in her 20s, so I don't know if this is the second kid or what where she's at in that that hierarchy of children, but it sounds like and again, I don't know his full background or anything like that, so I'm just going off of things that I've heard and seen.
00:06:39.302 --> 00:06:50.875 I don't know if he ever was taught how to be a dad or taught how to be a man per se, because he's got a lot of problems.
00:06:50.875 --> 00:06:51.797 He's got a lot of issues.
00:06:51.860 --> 00:06:53.767 He's got a lot of mental issues and stuff like that.
00:06:53.767 --> 00:06:55.165 So I don't know.
00:06:55.165 --> 00:06:57.629 I'm not trying to give him a pass or anything like that.
00:06:57.629 --> 00:07:04.048 I know me personally, I try to be there for my kids as much as I possibly can, working or not working.
00:07:04.048 --> 00:07:21.386 Obviously, I've never been in the NBA, so I don't know how, I don't know that life but kids tend to just want somebody to feel like they care for them, to feel like that, no matter what mom or dad for that matter is doing, they're going to always be there for me.
00:07:21.386 --> 00:07:33.470 I can always, I can always, I can always, I can always, I can always count on mom or count on dad.
00:07:33.470 --> 00:07:36.581 It's clear that this young lady does not feel that way.
00:07:36.581 --> 00:07:46.228 It can go one or two ways because, not to go too far off topic, but Jalen Rose Jalen Rose' dad was in the NBA.
00:07:46.228 --> 00:07:56.439 He didn't know about his dad until he got older and he used that as fuel to motivate him to get to the NBA and become a better player than his dad was.
00:07:56.980 --> 00:07:59.108 And he said his motivation was strictly that.
00:07:59.108 --> 00:08:01.127 So he can see what he missed out on.
00:08:01.127 --> 00:08:05.067 Jalen Rose's number is the opposite of his dad's number.
00:08:05.067 --> 00:08:06.430 See, I didn't know that, all of that.
00:08:06.430 --> 00:08:07.112 You know what I'm saying.
00:08:07.112 --> 00:08:12.569 When he was in high school, five he was just five in the pros, but in high school and I don't remember what that number was.
00:08:12.569 --> 00:08:16.706 But he purposely flipped his number on what his dad's number was.
00:08:16.766 --> 00:08:27.007 Okay, so his dad can be like out you, right, I don't need you, you are a sperm to her type of thing.
00:08:27.007 --> 00:08:33.589 So I don't know if this young lady used that same uh motivation to become because she's one of the great, one of the best uh soccer players in the world, right, yeah, you know.
00:08:33.589 --> 00:08:36.144 So I don't know if she used that as the same motivation or not.
00:08:36.144 --> 00:08:42.306 Because they had I know they had a hard life, because you know they, they were hard up for money, like mom didn't sound.
00:08:42.306 --> 00:08:46.360 I don't think the mom asked for much from from uh dennis and such.
00:08:46.360 --> 00:08:49.168 They absolutely positively needed it and stuff like that.
00:08:49.168 --> 00:08:50.250 So I don't know.
00:08:50.250 --> 00:08:51.822 But I mean you know.
00:08:51.841 --> 00:09:09.134 So reports say that like the moms, like she was talking in an interview about how the mom really tried, really trying to create a stable environment with all the chaos.
00:09:09.215 --> 00:09:17.845 And the daughter in the interview you can go check it out she even talked about how Dennis Rodman, when she was with him, was like bringing a bunch of women home and stuff like that.
00:09:17.845 --> 00:09:19.811 Yeah, man.
00:09:19.811 --> 00:09:25.148 So I think I remember being in high school right and I remember playing football.
00:09:25.148 --> 00:09:32.432 Think I remember being in high school right and I remember playing football, and I remember my parents had to work.
00:09:32.432 --> 00:09:44.433 My dad worked 12 hours in the morning, my grandma worked 12 hours at night and that was a job, or vice versa, my mom worked 12 hours during the day, my dad worked 12 hours at night and he had to sleep during the day.
00:09:44.433 --> 00:09:47.576 My mom worked 12 hours during the day, my dad worked 12 hours at night and he had to sleep during the day.
00:09:47.576 --> 00:09:57.990 And so there was a lot like they had to do because we had damn near a thousand kids, siblings, right, and so, uh, and I remember playing football my senior year and I remember it was senior night and I remember talking to my dad.
00:09:57.990 --> 00:09:59.539 I was like, hey, are you gonna be able to come?
00:09:59.539 --> 00:10:06.405 He was like, nah, I'm not gonna be able to and I was like, all right, cool, I understand because you know, I understand, I'm the oldest of my siblings.
00:10:06.405 --> 00:10:08.548 I'm like I totally understand that.
00:10:08.548 --> 00:10:21.211 And so in my mind I'm talking with some of the other players because they had a rule that you can't just go out to the field by yourself so they won't have other parents come out for you or other coaches or something.
00:10:21.211 --> 00:10:27.221 Right, do that too.
00:10:27.221 --> 00:10:27.342 Right.
00:10:27.342 --> 00:10:33.298 And we're walking out to the field on a senior night and right before the seniors get out, my dad taps me on the shoulder pad and he's like I'll meet you on the 50 yard line.
00:10:33.298 --> 00:10:35.139 And I'm like, oh shit, you know what I mean.
00:10:35.139 --> 00:10:35.822 Okay, you bet.
00:10:35.822 --> 00:10:53.965 Now we had one teammate whose dad was like dealing with some other stuff, like personal issues, and so all the I hate to say this all the brothers just got together and met him at the 50-yard line my dad and someone else's dad and a couple others and they met him so that way he wouldn't be alone.
00:10:54.380 --> 00:10:56.869 But I remember that meaning so much to me.
00:10:56.869 --> 00:10:58.666 Like, just not necessarily.
00:10:58.666 --> 00:11:02.730 Like, I understand, you got to work, you got to do things and things like that.
00:11:02.730 --> 00:11:09.164 I don't know what strings he pulled to even get there, but he was at least there.
00:11:09.164 --> 00:11:11.471 He was like I'm gonna be here for the first half, you give me for the first half.
00:11:11.471 --> 00:11:11.972 Then I gotta go to work.
00:11:11.972 --> 00:11:16.743 I'm like, okay, I'm good with that, um and uh, so then fast forward.
00:11:16.982 --> 00:11:33.179 I'm grown, my kid has a game um hour and 15 minutes away and my concern is you're not going to fall and get a concussion with your clumsy ass at this game and me not be able to me find out that they taking you to the hospital.
00:11:33.179 --> 00:11:34.241 That's not gonna happen.
00:11:34.241 --> 00:11:44.831 And so I pulled some strings at work and I'm working a lot for the holidays and I pulled some strings and I was able to get off work like an hour and a half earlier.
00:11:44.831 --> 00:11:46.634 So I'm like bet I can make the game.
00:11:46.634 --> 00:11:57.154 So I leave early, I make the game and I pull up right when the coach is giving his speech to go on the court.
00:11:57.154 --> 00:12:08.503 And you can see, as I walked by him, she like saw me and like got teary-eyed and tried like to play it off and smile and not try to make eye contact with me.
00:12:08.503 --> 00:12:17.885 Um, but uh, and then she goes out and then she scores like 20 points in the game, right, and so it was just super cool.
00:12:17.885 --> 00:12:23.385 Because afterwards she's like I appreciate you coming and you realize, like they don't.
00:12:23.385 --> 00:12:29.510 They don't acknowledge the fact that you work, they don't acknowledge the fact that your back is hurt or anything like that.
00:12:29.720 --> 00:12:34.993 But in that and in this moment, like we you know we old now, I'm not old.
00:12:34.993 --> 00:12:36.765 I like to pretend I'm not.
00:12:36.765 --> 00:12:39.903 You're not that old, I'm sorry, you're not that old, I'm not old.
00:12:39.903 --> 00:12:47.484 But my knees, you are not that old, my knees, you are not fat, I'm not that old.
00:12:47.484 --> 00:12:48.508 But my knees don't work like they used to.
00:12:48.508 --> 00:12:49.190 Not old, I tell my knees that.
00:12:49.190 --> 00:12:50.755 Tell my knees that they mid 30s, because I'd be when I'd be.
00:12:50.755 --> 00:12:52.461 I saw my, I saw a video of me running.
00:12:52.461 --> 00:12:55.346 That shit is not pretty.
00:12:55.346 --> 00:12:56.708 That shit is not pretty.
00:12:56.708 --> 00:13:08.073 That is not young me, that is not a young body, uh, but uh, but like my daughter's, like our kids are 13, 14 years old.
00:13:08.073 --> 00:13:09.201 That's not a long life.
00:13:09.201 --> 00:13:20.798 So that is a huge moment for them, whereas us is like I'll reminisce about that, that was pretty cool about, and with them it's like, oh, those are the things they remember.
00:13:21.019 --> 00:13:23.947 Yeah, yeah, man, I remember the people that are there for them.
00:13:24.227 --> 00:13:25.792 Right, right, and it just.
00:13:25.792 --> 00:13:38.259 I think the biggest issue with this story is that she's grown, she's accomplished stuff, and there's always this narrative, this question on the line as far as who is the responsibility?
00:13:38.259 --> 00:13:47.461 It is to rectify relationships once children get older and become adults themselves, and it whether or not it's on the parents or not.
00:13:47.461 --> 00:13:54.081 And I know some people that are like, oh my kid, they done with me, and I mean it is what it is.
00:13:54.081 --> 00:14:03.447 No, you gotta put in work to rectify that relationship or accept the fact that they're gonna be on podcasts talking about you.
00:14:03.447 --> 00:14:04.207 You can't be a union.
00:14:04.248 --> 00:14:13.289 To me it's just a lot All you can do.
00:14:13.289 --> 00:14:17.706 It's tough, especially in this situation.
00:14:17.706 --> 00:14:19.672 I don't know where his head space is at.
00:14:19.672 --> 00:14:29.712 I don't know if it's his guilt that's not allowing him to be the father that he wants to be.
00:14:29.712 --> 00:14:36.452 And obviously I'm just going off of how I feel about the situation because I don't know the man.
00:14:36.452 --> 00:14:42.201 You know it could be anything, it could be.
00:14:42.201 --> 00:14:45.051 He's embarrassed by the way he treated his mom.
00:14:45.279 --> 00:14:52.311 I'm not saying that any of these things are right, because ultimately, he is the adult in the situation.
00:14:52.311 --> 00:14:56.227 Well, they're both adults now, but he is the dad in the situation.
00:14:56.227 --> 00:15:05.332 So I do think it's always up to him to rectify whatever issues.
00:15:05.332 --> 00:15:22.429 It may be, having an adult conversation with his adult daughter, because I want to say she's mid-20s, yeah, she's a grown-down, so she's capable of having an adult conversation with and, at the end of the day, your kids just want to love you.
00:15:22.429 --> 00:15:27.649 At the end of the day, your kids want to feel like you love them and they want to love you right?
00:15:27.649 --> 00:15:34.833 Um, as as much as she was talking about there and upset she was or well, not necessarily upset, but speaking her truth.
00:15:34.833 --> 00:15:39.793 I guarantee you, if he picked up the phone and talked to her and explained things.
00:15:39.793 --> 00:15:48.070 She might not like what he's saying, but she can understand it and then they can start moving forward and having a productive relationship going forward.
00:15:48.200 --> 00:15:50.285 Right, snoop Dogg was at the Olympics.
00:15:50.285 --> 00:15:57.576 Let's be real, snoop Dogg was the biggest supporter fan of the Olympics.
00:15:57.576 --> 00:16:01.325 He was sitting next to Simone Biles' mom.
00:16:01.325 --> 00:16:02.227 He was there.
00:16:02.227 --> 00:16:06.248 He was over there like power lifting, like a blank pole.
00:16:06.248 --> 00:16:12.743 Snoop was just out there having the time of his life who's like 50, 60 years old now?
00:16:12.743 --> 00:16:21.706 But you just gotta be there and I think, yeah, you can have conversation and, yeah, they may not forgive you at that time.
00:16:21.706 --> 00:16:24.684 You know what I mean, but she's a national soccer player, just be there.
00:16:24.684 --> 00:16:26.139 She know what I mean, but she's a national soccer player, just be there.
00:16:26.139 --> 00:16:32.740 She's at the age where she's hopefully, maybe eventually gonna start starting her own family.
00:16:32.740 --> 00:16:39.130 You know what I mean and you gotta, yeah, man, it just I don't.
00:16:39.130 --> 00:16:49.409 I don't see where it's like I understand you want to look at the world through a different lens, but it's like there is no different lens when it comes to your kid.
00:16:49.409 --> 00:16:53.667 Your kid's lens is or your child or your daughter's lens.
00:16:54.028 --> 00:16:55.652 it's hers and so you got in the day.
00:16:55.652 --> 00:16:58.205 When it's all said and done, that's your legacy.
00:16:58.205 --> 00:17:00.330 So what do you want your legacy?
00:17:00.330 --> 00:17:01.712 Going around, thinking about you?
00:17:01.712 --> 00:17:04.026 Yeah, that's my thought process.
00:17:04.788 --> 00:17:10.647 Um, you know, when people ask me, I'm like, at this point in my life, I'm focused on my legacy.
00:17:10.647 --> 00:17:19.098 I'm focused on when I pass and my children are still here, what conversations are they going to be able to have about me?
00:17:19.098 --> 00:17:24.593 Right, right, um, you know, I want people to be able to come to my kids and be like, hey, I knew your dad.
00:17:24.593 --> 00:17:26.005 Your dad was a hell of a person.
00:17:26.005 --> 00:17:29.509 You know, your dad did this for me, or not even did this for me.
00:17:29.509 --> 00:17:35.269 Your dad was there for me, your dad, whenever I needed somebody, I knew I can count on your, your pops.
00:17:35.269 --> 00:17:37.708 That's what I want people to say about me.
00:17:37.708 --> 00:17:51.188 That's what I care about at this point in my life is and you, just as you get older, especially as a man, you start to face your mortality.
00:17:51.188 --> 00:17:54.252 Yeah, um, and that's where I'm at, like I, you know, I'm 47 years old.
00:17:54.252 --> 00:17:55.420 I'll be 48 in march.
00:17:55.420 --> 00:17:59.345 I still have a lot of time left, I feel like.
00:17:59.345 --> 00:18:04.451 But but with my, my youngest is seven, you know.
00:18:04.451 --> 00:18:07.115 So you know, do the math there.
00:18:07.115 --> 00:18:08.101 Yeah, you know.
00:18:08.101 --> 00:18:20.851 So I want to make sure that when I leave this earth and I take my last breath, I'm going to be somebody that he's going to be proud of in all my children yeah, especially him, because my other kids I've been around long enough for them.
00:18:21.319 --> 00:18:23.986 He's still a kid, he's still a baby.
00:18:23.986 --> 00:18:24.845 You know he's seven kid.
00:18:24.845 --> 00:18:25.269 He's still a baby.
00:18:25.269 --> 00:18:25.855 You know he's seven.
00:18:25.855 --> 00:18:29.348 Yeah, he don't think he's a baby, but he's still a baby, um, you know so.
00:18:29.348 --> 00:18:37.951 So that's what matters to me that when I'm long gone, somebody could say to him be like hey, I knew your pops.
00:18:37.951 --> 00:18:45.921 Yo, your pops was a good dude, you know, your pops was, was, you know, and not just and I don't want it to be them just saying that I was there.
00:18:45.921 --> 00:18:47.166 I want him to be like you know what?
00:18:47.166 --> 00:18:48.955 I know that, I know that about my pops.
00:18:48.955 --> 00:18:52.406 I know because every time I reached out to my pops he was there for me.
00:18:52.406 --> 00:18:55.563 You know, type of thing that's that's what matters to me, period.
00:18:55.722 --> 00:18:57.046 Yeah, no, absolutely.
00:18:57.046 --> 00:19:09.474 I tell uh, my older still all the time I'm like, listen man, it is the important things to accomplish in life, but being a good person cannot be overshadowed.
00:19:09.474 --> 00:19:13.309 And I remember I forget what happened.
00:19:13.309 --> 00:19:19.904 We were going to Walmart, I don't know if I told you this.
00:19:19.904 --> 00:19:26.721 So we were going to Walmart and I remember I was don't judge, okay, all right.
00:19:26.721 --> 00:19:31.666 So I was in like a Captain America t-shirt, okay, okay.
00:19:31.988 --> 00:19:32.828 Wait, wait, wait.
00:19:33.891 --> 00:19:38.087 Captain America, captain America, no, no, it was just like the shield, but it was a new shield.
00:19:38.087 --> 00:19:39.704 It was like the Falcon shield.
00:19:39.704 --> 00:19:47.231 Okay yeah, I don't know if you know, but like there's a small difference in the shields I don't know if you know, but there's a small difference in the shields.
00:19:47.231 --> 00:19:49.035 And I made sure.
00:19:49.035 --> 00:19:51.380 I was like okay, this is the Falcon shield, I'll show it to you.
00:19:51.380 --> 00:19:58.509 And so, like the Sam Wilson shield, and so we go and we're getting off on the exit and there's a huge accident.
00:19:58.509 --> 00:20:04.015 Someone got rear-ended into another car and that car got pushed into the traffic.
00:20:04.015 --> 00:20:07.228 And so they're pulling out this woman out of the car.
00:20:07.228 --> 00:20:10.580 She was black and everybody kept asking me if she was my girlfriend or my wife.
00:20:10.580 --> 00:20:12.987 I was like no, stop, stop.
00:20:12.987 --> 00:20:19.590 I know, I know we in a place where there's not a lot of black people, just because you see two don't mean we together, like whatever.
00:20:19.590 --> 00:20:24.883 And so immediately I just like I'm, you know, I'm in the medical field.
00:20:24.883 --> 00:20:35.756 So I pull over and I go and I'm like listen, I need you to stay by this car, because the one car I got pushed out in the traffic, that person is still in that car.
00:20:35.756 --> 00:20:38.666 So if traffic comes, you know, another accident.
00:20:38.666 --> 00:20:40.271 I just need you to stay by this car.
00:20:40.271 --> 00:20:42.086 I need to get that woman out of the car.
00:20:42.381 --> 00:20:44.548 So I go, I run out on the street.
00:20:44.548 --> 00:20:50.351 There's another guy directing traffic and there's this older woman and she's you can tell she's in shock.
00:20:50.351 --> 00:20:53.325 And so I'm like we need to get you out of this car.
00:20:53.325 --> 00:21:05.431 You're fine, but I need to get you away because you're still in neutral, like you're not here, and so she, I take her and I set her by my kid.
00:21:05.431 --> 00:21:07.753 I'm like you just stay right here.
00:21:08.375 --> 00:21:10.085 And she's like, and my kid's like, what do I do?
00:21:10.085 --> 00:21:16.525 I'm like I just want you to tell her about your basketball game, just get her mind off of this.
00:21:16.525 --> 00:21:20.732 He's like, okay, and so you know my kid will talk your ear off.
00:21:20.732 --> 00:21:28.147 So then I go, I check on the other woman who's pregnant, and they're fine, police are coming and everything like that.
00:21:28.147 --> 00:21:34.152 And I go, um, like, okay, cool, they're stable, this woman's stable.